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How Would You Play This Advice & Strategy  | 
05-31-2008, 04:52 PM
| | | |  How Would You Play This
Alright the guy who is in this hand has been very aggresive all game and just tried to bluff me off a hand earlier so how would you play this hand?
PokerStars Game #17817755124: Tournament #90358760, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/05/31 - 11:47:09 (ET)
Table '90358760 18' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: KINGKONG_MG (7940 in chips)
Seat 2: dtcruiser (10755 in chips)
Seat 3: alby_c17 (22381 in chips)
Seat 4: nufcpoker (1220 in chips)
Seat 5: Spin_KK (3885 in chips)
Seat 7: leebeenutty (7702 in chips)
Seat 8: Romeplayer (5886 in chips)
Seat 9: xite112 (2180 in chips)
dtcruiser: posts small blind 100
alby_c17: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dtcruiser [Qh Th]
nufcpoker: folds
Spin_KK: folds
leebeenutty: folds
Romeplayer: folds
xite112: folds
KINGKONG_MG: calls 200
dtcruiser: calls 100
alby_c17: checks
*** FLOP *** [9h 8s 4h]
dtcruiser: checks
alby_c17: checks
KINGKONG_MG: bets 200
dtcruiser: calls 200
alby_c17: folds
*** TURN *** [9h 8s 4h] [2h]
dtcruiser: checks
KINGKONG_MG: bets 600
dtcruiser: calls 600
*** RIVER *** [9h 8s 4h 2h] [7h]
dtcruiser: checks
KINGKONG_MG: bets 600
dtcruiser: calls 600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KINGKONG_MG: shows [Jh 3h] (a flush, Jack high)
dtcruiser: shows [Qh Th] (a flush, Queen high)
dtcruiser collected 3400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3400 | Rake 0 | | |
05-31-2008, 05:02 PM
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I think you played it a little too passively. I'm always wary of a min-bet on the flop - all it serves to do is build up the pot a little, but it doesn't give you much information. It's for this reason I would have raised to 700 or 800. If he calls that bet and I miss the turn, I check-call his bet. Otherwise, I come out firing and throw out another bet, somewhere in the 1200-chip range.
Now, normally I'd be concerned if he calls my raise and a third heart comes out, but I think you can eliminate the possibility of him holding Ax. This guy came in for an open-limp from the button, it is HIGHLY unlikely he limped with a suited ace. If he happens to hold Kxs, so be it - but there are a lot more hands that he could hold so that you can't consider that possibility.
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05-31-2008, 05:45 PM
| | | |  whoaaaaaa
i think if you would of raise he would of folded,
for that price to see a flop with that amount of chips is a no brainer ,the 200 is worth the the call in that situation, thats good you already had him read
an you got him good, regardess the chips you took from him you owned him.
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05-31-2008, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lurock2k5  i think if you would of raise he would of folded,
for that price to see a flop with that amount of chips is a no brainer ,the 200 is worth the the call in that situation, thats good you already had him read
an you got him good, regardess the chips you took from him you owned him.
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Lol thanks Lurock | | |
05-31-2008, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by k06mars I think you played it a little too passively. I'm always wary of a min-bet on the flop - all it serves to do is build up the pot a little, but it doesn't give you much information. It's for this reason I would have raised to 700 or 800. If he calls that bet and I miss the turn, I check-call his bet. Otherwise, I come out firing and throw out another bet, somewhere in the 1200-chip range.
Now, normally I'd be concerned if he calls my raise and a third heart comes out, but I think you can eliminate the possibility of him holding Ax. This guy came in for an open-limp from the button, it is HIGHLY unlikely he limped with a suited ace. If he happens to hold Kxs, so be it - but there are a lot more hands that he could hold so that you can't consider that possibility. |
Thanks Mars appreciate the advice  | | |
05-31-2008, 06:15 PM
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I think the only thing I would have done different is I would have check raised the turn. Of course he would have called then (seeing now what he had) or possibly pushed all-in. Then you may have gotten even more chips, but a decision to make. | | |
05-31-2008, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lurock2k5 i think if you would of raise he would of folded,
for that price to see a flop with that amount of chips is a no brainer ,the 200 is worth the the call in that situation, thats good you already had him read
an you got him good, regardess the chips you took from him you owned him.
vn | ...are you saying you limp with J3s at the beginning of a tourney?
(I ask this because at the beginning of a tourney, you have 75bbs - at this point villain had only 40bbs)
Limping with suited crap is a losing decision, you may get lucky once in a while but it will cost you BIG in the long run.
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06-01-2008, 01:43 AM
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Against a player like that im raising the flop atleast 3 x the bet....betting the turn 2/3rds of the pot then betting the pot on the river regardless of whether i have the flush or not. This works well for me because not only do i have alot of fold equity throughout the hand, but i create an image. If I'm called when i missed the flush then i can change gears and tighten up, betting very agressively when i have a hand (and not bluffing - only Cbetting flops), as im more likely to get called lighter (meaning when you have the flush draw next time you play it passively by just calling (with the correct pot or implied odds obviously) to disguise your hand and not give players a chance to re-raise knowing your weak or drawing. If he folds to your river bet (after missing the flush) then you take a nice pot, and can continue to be extremly agressive until your caught out. Then like mentioned above you change gears. This is how I play MTTs, im very aware of my image at the table. If i get moved tables then I can change gears again, and take advantage of the fact knowone knows me.
I've kinda differed from the point here, but i just wanted to make the point that how i play the hand and any hand infact is dependant on my image at the table and the cards i've showed down. You want to keep your oppenents guessing and remain unpredictable.
Obviously some players will not notice what your doing anyway but being aware of your table image is good practise for higher buy ins and against more competent players.
Last edited by JayC170; 06-01-2008 at 01:49 AM.
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