$$$$ Per Hour?

Hey guys.

Great forum. Clearly there's some great players on this site.

Got a quick question. I've been playing a few weeks, nearly solidly (at Bet365 in case you're wondering).

I've been reading books, magazines, forums, making notes, got tables, charts and charts, etc. I'm playing 5c/10c NL and after a couple hours play I can be up $20 ish, or I can be down $10 ish.

What kind of hourly rate are you guys experiencing? Any advice for a noob?

Thanks in advance, and hope to meet you at the table some day ;-)

Scotty

You need to have played around 10k hands to determine your win rate,some say 50k before you get a true reading.

Playing NL10 you should be hitting at least 7PTBB/100 as the play is so bad. I've recently started playing NL10 again, have 2.5k hands logged and am running at 10.55PTBB/100. If I don't finish 10k hands winning at least 7.5PTBB/100 I will be mighty pissed off!

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Well, let's see..at the professional level, I believe the goal is to win 1bb/100 hands (measure in hands played, not in hours). The NL10 tables are obviously not professional, though - so assuming you are better than your opponents, you should be winning more than 1bb/100 hands - how much really depends on your skill level. I think 5bb/100 hands would probably be a good goal to set yourself for at first, then move on from there.

And if you didn't realize it, bb = big blind, so 1bb/100 hands at NL10 = 10c.

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Aah, ok.

So if I win $15 over 300 hands, in 5c/10c NL tables, is that:
(15 / 0.1) / (300 / 100) = 50 BB/100 ?

I'm assuming I double that figure for PTBB/100 ?

Thanks,

Scotty

personally i would strive for a win rate greater than kmars is suggesting for any level particularly as the big bet hours ratios I normally see relate to limit rather than no limit and I normaly see something more optimistic than 1BB i.e. 10c in 100 hands at that level. In terms of NL or Pot limit play I normally assess my profitability in terms of average pot size, risk to my own stack, minimum sit down ammount (amount you are often winning for a big hand) etc etc. Mat and wickedroller play much more ring games than I do, as probably does kmars but that is the approach that I have taken when dabling in the ring (generally 1/2$ PLO 8/B rather than NL holdem)

I think you can have a sense of where you are at within less than 2000 hands but that the key here seems to be getting a sense of what the average is between the swings (how often are you losing 10$ and how often are you gaining 20$) rather than anything else.

I think you just have to see where your average earnings are averaging and take it from there. Someone who puts there entire bankroll at risk and wins 10$ an hour on average is liable to bust out and this is much less impressive than someone who makes 10$ an hour in limit holdem simultaniously playing 20 tables of 5c/10c blinds. As a newbie I would focus on profit per hand (as kmars suggests) rather than profit per hour because you need to view play at differing limits/stakes seperately and also because the more experienced you are the more likely that you will multitable (play 2 or more hands at the same time on different tables) which will often increase your $$ per hour but will almost never increase your $$ per hand and whilst you are learning this is the main thing to try to improve.

Guys,

That's great.

Thanks!

Scotty